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		<title>Comment on Excitement is in the Air &#8211; 2012 Mifos Summit Recap by PRADEEP PANDA</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/2012-mifos-summit-recap/#comment-10984</link>
		<dc:creator>PRADEEP PANDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IT sounds good that community prepare the road map for Mifos-X. Thanks to Ed for posting all those in detail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT sounds good that community prepare the road map for Mifos-X. Thanks to Ed for posting all those in detail.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Excitement is in the Air &#8211; 2012 Mifos Summit Recap by AMIT JAIN</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/2012-mifos-summit-recap/#comment-10972</link>
		<dc:creator>AMIT JAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 06:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is overall good.I personally feel that the mindsets are changed and everybody wants to contribute his efforts to take this community at the top.
In summit for me everybody was special.
Cheers to all off you guys.soon to see you in 2013 summit.
Many thanks to ED and Craig Chelius they think beyond the technical side.

It is &quot;Social open source community&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is overall good.I personally feel that the mindsets are changed and everybody wants to contribute his efforts to take this community at the top.<br />
In summit for me everybody was special.<br />
Cheers to all off you guys.soon to see you in 2013 summit.<br />
Many thanks to ED and Craig Chelius they think beyond the technical side.</p>
<p>It is &#8220;Social open source community&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Remixing Microfinance with the Client at the Center by JOHN WOODLOCK</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/remixing-microfinance/#comment-9940</link>
		<dc:creator>JOHN WOODLOCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew,

As a systems developer, I pretty much agree that the idea behind the pyramid (which is a kind of a separation of concerns) is very useful.  It&#039;s not usually a good thing to put too much functionality into one system.  

From a user perspective, the product used needs to have all the functionality to do the job at hand.  Of course, under the bonnet, this can be a number of systems that seem connected.  The basic idea behind Mifos X is to be good at &#039;portfolio services&#039; and to expect that there are times when other systems will need to be integrated to make up a full &#039;product&#039; e.g accounting, contact management, adhoc querying, analytics and so it goes on depending on the user needs.

Mifos X also does a &#039;basic&#039; job at providing a reporting capability, the ability to plug-in non-core data and (soon) simple accounting so that many smaller users don&#039;t have to worry about integration if they don&#039;t have a huge need in those areas.  However, its a point well-made that going beyond this simple scope can be counter-productive and is likely to result in much more complicated beast to take care of.  Although the boundaries are somewhat subjective, any desire to incorporate fully functional accounting or contact management features within Mifos X should be avoided in favour of integrating with other systems that focus on those areas.

Most of the main article is about being able to cater for combinations of Microfinance methodologies because &#039;blending&#039; might prove useful in business development and outreach.  In the system sense this still amounts to handling transaction processing for the various types of a client&#039;s accounts and services.  So, the heavy lifting is still at the bottom of the pyramid.  In Mifos X, this is equivalent to the API which dutifully does all that mind-numbing number and data crunching work - although I do love the sound of the cogs turning over :) .  Other parts mentioned in the main article (analytic insight for example) can be done using any number of open source and commercial products.  And it&#039;s possible to make that integration appear seamless through the user interface.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew,</p>
<p>As a systems developer, I pretty much agree that the idea behind the pyramid (which is a kind of a separation of concerns) is very useful.  It&#8217;s not usually a good thing to put too much functionality into one system.  </p>
<p>From a user perspective, the product used needs to have all the functionality to do the job at hand.  Of course, under the bonnet, this can be a number of systems that seem connected.  The basic idea behind Mifos X is to be good at &#8216;portfolio services&#8217; and to expect that there are times when other systems will need to be integrated to make up a full &#8216;product&#8217; e.g accounting, contact management, adhoc querying, analytics and so it goes on depending on the user needs.</p>
<p>Mifos X also does a &#8216;basic&#8217; job at providing a reporting capability, the ability to plug-in non-core data and (soon) simple accounting so that many smaller users don&#8217;t have to worry about integration if they don&#8217;t have a huge need in those areas.  However, its a point well-made that going beyond this simple scope can be counter-productive and is likely to result in much more complicated beast to take care of.  Although the boundaries are somewhat subjective, any desire to incorporate fully functional accounting or contact management features within Mifos X should be avoided in favour of integrating with other systems that focus on those areas.</p>
<p>Most of the main article is about being able to cater for combinations of Microfinance methodologies because &#8216;blending&#8217; might prove useful in business development and outreach.  In the system sense this still amounts to handling transaction processing for the various types of a client&#8217;s accounts and services.  So, the heavy lifting is still at the bottom of the pyramid.  In Mifos X, this is equivalent to the API which dutifully does all that mind-numbing number and data crunching work &#8211; although I do love the sound of the cogs turning over <img src='http://www.openmf.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .  Other parts mentioned in the main article (analytic insight for example) can be done using any number of open source and commercial products.  And it&#8217;s possible to make that integration appear seamless through the user interface.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Remixing Microfinance with the Client at the Center by MATTHEW LAURENSON</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/remixing-microfinance/#comment-9892</link>
		<dc:creator>MATTHEW LAURENSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your post and the links.

At the risk of sounding like an Information Systems lecturer (or teaching grandma how to suck eggs) information systems are often depicted as a pyramid with Transaction Processing Systems (TPS) at the base, Management Information Systems (MIS) in the middle, and Decision Support Systems (DSS) at the top. The critical attributes for each kind of system differ. TPS need to be efficient to handle the volume of transactions, be accurate, and auditable - the &quot;rock solid&quot; foundation on which the layers above are stacked. They tend to be backward looking. 

DSS on the other hand need to be flexible and support ad-hoc queries and are often more forward looking, supporting &quot;What if?&quot; scenarios. One doesn&#039;t really want tellers in microfinance institutes experimenting with ideas like &quot;What if that customer just now hadn&#039;t actually made a payment to the bank&quot; ;-)

MIS fall somewhere in between - standard reports that summarise the transactions in well understood ways.

In my view, Mifos&#039; tremendous value is as a solid TPS. The TPS constraints above will mean that it will always be a &quot;poor dancer&quot; - never showy and nimble on its feet, but a friend that we can rely on to clean up after the party. (hope I&#039;m not mixing metaphors too much).

I&#039;d welcome greater expressive capability in its database, but in my view greater complexity (and greater risk of bugs) will inevitably come with that flexibility, and that will tend to make its development somewhat slower than everyone might wish.

Hope I haven&#039;t missed your point above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post and the links.</p>
<p>At the risk of sounding like an Information Systems lecturer (or teaching grandma how to suck eggs) information systems are often depicted as a pyramid with Transaction Processing Systems (TPS) at the base, Management Information Systems (MIS) in the middle, and Decision Support Systems (DSS) at the top. The critical attributes for each kind of system differ. TPS need to be efficient to handle the volume of transactions, be accurate, and auditable &#8211; the &#8220;rock solid&#8221; foundation on which the layers above are stacked. They tend to be backward looking. </p>
<p>DSS on the other hand need to be flexible and support ad-hoc queries and are often more forward looking, supporting &#8220;What if?&#8221; scenarios. One doesn&#8217;t really want tellers in microfinance institutes experimenting with ideas like &#8220;What if that customer just now hadn&#8217;t actually made a payment to the bank&#8221; <img src='http://www.openmf.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>MIS fall somewhere in between &#8211; standard reports that summarise the transactions in well understood ways.</p>
<p>In my view, Mifos&#8217; tremendous value is as a solid TPS. The TPS constraints above will mean that it will always be a &#8220;poor dancer&#8221; &#8211; never showy and nimble on its feet, but a friend that we can rely on to clean up after the party. (hope I&#8217;m not mixing metaphors too much).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d welcome greater expressive capability in its database, but in my view greater complexity (and greater risk of bugs) will inevitably come with that flexibility, and that will tend to make its development somewhat slower than everyone might wish.</p>
<p>Hope I haven&#8217;t missed your point above.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Billion Maries by OUTREACH ON THE GROUND &#8211; MAY 2012 &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/impact/3-billion-maries/#comment-3679</link>
		<dc:creator>OUTREACH ON THE GROUND &#8211; MAY 2012 &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on National Volunteer Week &#8211; a Time for Action by ALHASSAN NAGUMSI</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/national-volunteer-week/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>ALHASSAN NAGUMSI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[REQUEST FOR PARTNERSHIP/ COLLABORATION
Association For Development-Assodev (NGO) is a duly registered NGO in Ghana mandated to render selfless social services to Humanity.
we are indeed grateful for this opportunity offered us to register our NGO- Association For development-Assodev with your esteem organization for PARTNERSHIP and collaboration to help the poor rural women and children.
Assodev. work with the rural poor women within local communities in Tamale. We train them in soap making, cake making, groundnuts oil extraction and Shea-butter extractions respectively. We want to improve upon their living standards and to enable them send their school dropouts back to school, particularly the girl child. Assodev solicits funding from philanthropist, foundations and charitable organizations to support our activities. Currently we operate with about 500 to 1000 rural women in self wealth creation activity. The women are put into groupings of 10 to 30 each and we advance small money as seed money for them to kick-start their trades after training. It is very viable, we need help in the form of funds to expand this noble program to reach out to more communities. We shall be most grateful if you could consider our humble request for collaboration to salvage the underprivileged, the poor and the unfortunate in the society to put smiles on their faces. To give them confidence in life, to improve upon their weak conditions.
Our programs are: Wealth creation/ micro finance, Child education, particularly the girl child, farmer demonstrations, Campaign against/ prevention of  HIV/AIdS, Assodev food security, fight against child trafficking and poverty eradication activity.
We very much hope you will give our request the best of attention.
Please accept our best regards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REQUEST FOR PARTNERSHIP/ COLLABORATION<br />
Association For Development-Assodev (NGO) is a duly registered NGO in Ghana mandated to render selfless social services to Humanity.<br />
we are indeed grateful for this opportunity offered us to register our NGO- Association For development-Assodev with your esteem organization for PARTNERSHIP and collaboration to help the poor rural women and children.<br />
Assodev. work with the rural poor women within local communities in Tamale. We train them in soap making, cake making, groundnuts oil extraction and Shea-butter extractions respectively. We want to improve upon their living standards and to enable them send their school dropouts back to school, particularly the girl child. Assodev solicits funding from philanthropist, foundations and charitable organizations to support our activities. Currently we operate with about 500 to 1000 rural women in self wealth creation activity. The women are put into groupings of 10 to 30 each and we advance small money as seed money for them to kick-start their trades after training. It is very viable, we need help in the form of funds to expand this noble program to reach out to more communities. We shall be most grateful if you could consider our humble request for collaboration to salvage the underprivileged, the poor and the unfortunate in the society to put smiles on their faces. To give them confidence in life, to improve upon their weak conditions.<br />
Our programs are: Wealth creation/ micro finance, Child education, particularly the girl child, farmer demonstrations, Campaign against/ prevention of  HIV/AIdS, Assodev food security, fight against child trafficking and poverty eradication activity.<br />
We very much hope you will give our request the best of attention.<br />
Please accept our best regards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Serving the Poor by NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK &#8211; A TIME FOR ACTION &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/impact/serving-the-poor/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>NATIONAL VOLUNTEER WEEK &#8211; A TIME FOR ACTION &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Billion Maries by OUTREACH ON THE GROUND &#8211; APRIL 2012 &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/impact/3-billion-maries/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>OUTREACH ON THE GROUND &#8211; APRIL 2012 &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 3 Billion Maries [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Centering on the Client &#8211; Open and Transparent Microfinance by OUTREACH ON THE GROUND &#8211; APRIL 2012 &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/open-microfinance/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>OUTREACH ON THE GROUND &#8211; APRIL 2012 &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] into the theme of responsible microfinance we touched on earlier this week, I&#8217;m proud that we are able to support microfinance [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Nuru by MARGARET H: MIFOS 2.3 SHIPS! &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</title>
		<link>http://www.openmf.org/nuru/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>MARGARET H: MIFOS 2.3 SHIPS! &#124; THE COMMUNITY FOR OPEN SOURCE MICROFINANCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is the teamwork of our community that produces powerful software that is helping Mifos users like Nuru serve more women like Margaret [...]]]></description>
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